
Héctor Serrano built Wispr Flow's paid ads program, and in a 15-minute video on X he walked through how he'd rebuild it in 30 days.
The starting point: 500 to 700 net-new UGC ads a month across Meta, AppLovin and TikTok, made by creators who get paid on performance.
This post got 2M views and very high engamgent for an IM video, so we had to take a close look. Here's the framework, what we're adopting, and the three things we'd do differently.
Wispr Flow's 6-step framework
Performance software: Wispr uses Trybe, which Héctor describes as "TikTok Shop for every platform." Creators earn a percentage of the revenue or ad spend their content drives.
Pay tied to results: in e-commerce, a % of GMV; in SaaS, a % of ad spend. Wispr pays 7% of ad spend, plus a minimum guarantee we'll get to below.
Recruiting for intent: no mass-recruiting "mercenaries." Héctor starts with 4 or 5 creators who fill specific gaps (formats, new customer profiles), finds them on Instagram by keyword (UGC, creators, tech, SaaS) and sends 100 to 200 DMs over a few days. The bar is high: out of roughly 7,000 applications on Trybe, only about 5 to 7 were accepted.
Sales-team culture: a weekly Thursday call with the media buyer, 1:1 coaching via Calendly, a community, giveaways (cameras, mics, Meta glasses), cash bonuses, and a first weeklong retreat in San Francisco with the top 6 creators.
Scaling in stages: 5 → 10 → 20 → 40. Wispr went from 5 to 50 active creators in 4 months. According to Héctor, the best teams have 40 to 60 creators; beyond that, you only add "killers."
Guarding against creative burnout: creators tend to copy whoever is winning the leaderboard. Per Héctor, if videos are 60% or more similar, Meta clusters them and cuts their reach. His answer: keep pushing net-new concepts.
The two key insights: the minimum guarantee and the referral bonus
The $1,000 minimum guarantee
This is the best part of the playbook. Héctor's example, which he calls a "smart retainer": a $1,000 minimum guarantee for a quota of 25 videos.
If commissions add up to $500 in month 1, the brand covers the remaining $500. If they hit $3,000 in month 2, no retainer is paid.
It's a floor, not an extra fee. It solves the core problem with any pay-for-performance program: good talent doesn't want to risk their first month, before there's enough data for commissions to pay off. And when the creator performs, the brand doesn't overpay.
The $100 referral bonus
Wispr pays $100 to any creator who brings in someone as good or better. Good creators know other good creators, so the referral bonus turns your best talent into your recruiting channel, faster and cheaper than any round of DMs. It also reinforces the team culture.
Upgrade 1: Grade at 72 hours on buying intent
A leaderboard that rewards influence on future buyer's decision.
We grade every piece at 72 hours, in this order:
Hook and retention: 3-second retention of at least 60%, completion of at least 50%, and natural product use within the first 3 to 5 seconds.
Buying intent = saves + shares: saving and sharing signal purchase intent. It's a TATAM concept, backed by our own study, which is why we never fold it into engagement rate, where it gets diluted by likes and comments.
Upgrade 2: Cohorts to break the 40–60 creator ceiling
Héctor is right from a brand's point of view. Wispr isn't an agency: it has one team and one media buyer coaching every creator. The 60 creators ceiling comes from management capacity, not from the ideal model.
An agency can provide a different structure:
Cohorts: each run by a community manager overseeing 40 to 80 creators, who handles 1:1 coaching, the weekly calls and the cohorts's leaderboard.
Bench: pre-approved creators (they've passed the gate, signed usage rights and actually used the product), ready to assign to a new brand.
Shared learning: a concepts bank, winning hooks by vertical and burned-out concepts, available to every cohort.
The agency doesn't stretch one team, it adds an additional cohort.
Upgrade 3: Tie the minimum guarantee and referrals to quality
We're buillding upon both insights, with three tweaks:
MG tied to quality: not "25 videos," but "25 videos that pass the gate."
Decaying minimums: for example, 100% in month 1, 50% in month 2 and 0 in month 3.
Conditional referral: the bonus is paid when the new creator passes the first-month, on quality or sales, not when they sign up.
Other tweaks we apply
Pay for results, not just spend: a % of ad spend rewards spending. For SaaS and apps, we propose a hybrid model: a % of ad spend plus a component tied to CPI or CPA against target and to D7/D30 retention or paid conversion.
Organic as a lab: the playbook goes straight to paid. We test first on fresh accounts (5- to 7-day warm-up) and only move organic winners into Spark Ads or Partnership Ads. Budget: 80% to what's proven, 20% to tests.
Structured variation against clustering: each concept is multiplied across three axes (creator face, hook and format), with 3 to 5 hooks per concept, a concept bank and a leaderboard that rewards new winning concepts.
Written rights and real UGC: written usage rights (30 to 60 days) before any video goes to paid, and only creators who've actually used the product. No fake UGC.
It all runs on our TEST → MULTIPLY → AMPLIFY → FEEDBACK flywheel: test organically and grade at 72 hours, multiply the winners, amplify only what's proven, and close the loop with coaching and the leaderboard. We share Héctor's core principle: volume beats luck. What we add is the system that makes that volume varied, measurable and scalable.
Key takeaways for your UGC program
Pay creators like a sales team: commission on what their content generates.
Use a minimum guarantee to take first-month risk off the table for good talent (at Wispr: $1,000 for 25 videos).
Offer a referral bonus (at Wispr: $100) so your best talent recruits the next.
Grade at 72 hours on hook, retention and buying intent (saves + shares), before CPA or spend.
Tie the minimum and the referral bonus to quality, not to volume or sign-ups.
To grow past 40–60 creators, change the structure: cohorts with one CM per 40–80 creators.
Push new concepts with variation in face, hook and format so Meta doesn't cluster your videos.


